Ecstatic Awareness Class 11
"Our Psychic Connection to
Everything"
PowerChat: *** Entered The New Age on 2/7/00 at 07:26 PM
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Galaxon:
3000 whacha got in store today?
RochelleDo:
welcome 3000, lovely to see you
RBCF
3000: Welcome, everyone. Tonight is our
eleventh
RBCF
3000: class in Ecstatic Awareness:
"What is it that
RBCF
3000: psychically connects us to
everything? Can we
RBCF
3000: gain control over it?"
Tipherath:
3K's gonna tune us all into ourselves,
right 3000?....hehe
Sendee66:
what is ecastacic?
RochelleDo:
well I hope to, 3000
Galaxon:
3000 i am sorry..but isnt that just the
experience of oneness?
RBCF
3000: Once again, for those who are
joining us for the
RBCF
3000: first time, the way we are using
the word
RBCF
3000: "ecstatic" here means
entering into states of
RBCF
3000: consciousness, accompanied by
transformation
RBCF
3000: of being, in which the supernatural
and the
RBCF
3000: Miraculous can be witnessed and
experienced
RBCF
3000: directly.
Sunglo001:
if I could spell I could answer that in
one word...concsciousness
RochelleDo:
well done, Sun
Tipherath:
(3K, sex?)
Tipherath:
RochelleDo:
no sex, Tip
Galaxon:
3000 so how do we do it?
RBCF
3000: Tipherath, maybe next year we might
get into sexual energies and their alchemies.
Sunglo001:
next year!!
Galaxon:
this must be my class then
RochelleDo:
mine too
Tipherath:
3K...you know I'm with ya'...you go...
RBCF
3000: Ok, friends, let's begin tonight's
class: "What is
RBCF
3000: it that psychically connects us to
everything?"
RBCF
3000: Most of us have been taught, or at
least
RBCF
3000: guessed, that a psychic connection
is
RBCF
3000: something like a radio signal,
linking stations or
RBCF
3000: receivers together.
RBCF
3000: And in practice, it pretty much
works out that
RBCF
3000: way -- a psychic or healer often
feels that they
RBCF
3000: are tuning in to the person's
frequency, and
RBCF
3000: either receiving messages from
their
RBCF
3000: subconscious or transmitting
balancing and
RBCF
3000: healing waves to them.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: It might not be a person -- it
could be, for
RBCF
3000: example, a place where some strong
event
RBCF
3000: happened, as with ghost or UFO
hunters, or an
RBCF
3000: object, like a sorcerer's stone or
a saint's relic,
RBCF
3000: that has had a mysterious message
or some
RBCF
3000: magical power stored into it.
Gollywow5:
RBCF
3000: It might be an attunement into a
past life or a
RBCF
3000: parallel reality, as well, which
would get rather
RBCF
3000: sci-fi in its practice.
RBCF
3000: .
Sunglo001:
same thing, tho, yes?
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, pretty much-- just a little
more, tho ...............
RBCF
3000: In such a metaphor or paradigm,
"control" might
RBCF
3000: mean to read the other person's
thoughts or
RBCF
3000: physical condition more accurately,
or to
RBCF
3000: influence them through purely
mental channels.
RBCF
3000: Or to learn to wield the power in a
crystal or a
RBCF
3000: vortex. In any event, it is taken as something
RBCF
3000: that we do to, or receive from,
some external
RBCF
3000: person, place or event, even if the
"event" lies
RBCF
3000: in some other dimension.
RBCF
3000: ****** Here would be a good place
to stop
RBCF
3000: and ask you all how you describe
psychic
RBCF
3000: events or practices that you have
known. Go
RBCF
3000: right ahead now, please
............
AngelsChild31:
I am connected To The angels
Sunglo001:
I want to know what you meant by
influence?
AngelsChild31:
I am very connected To my grandma
Galaxon:
since i have no pyschic ability, i'd
say no description is available
AngelsChild31:
she has passed to The other side
Sendee66:
<^^ dont think I have any
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, "influence" is
just a catch-all word for "acting from a distance"
Sunglo001:
because there is no such thing as time or
boundaries on dimensions, except those that
Sunglo001:
we create...all things are available
MoMolly2:
how about tellign someone u love them
telepathically and they put their finger in their ear
Galaxon:
>>>
Sendee66:
just connected to one guy....I seem to
know when he is going to be some where
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, or at least, none that you
have described to yourself that way yet, maybe?
Galaxon:
3000 zero at all
AngelsChild31:
I feel connected to some people as well
Galaxon:
molly wax in ear?
Tipherath:
no Q's, 3K...why not kick that mule
MoMolly2:
nope gal
DEEDAILEY:
I have sent messages to my son, and he'd
call a bit later, and say "OK..what's up?"
RochelleDo:
I am merely at the sychronicity
stage where I am
RochelleDo:
beginning to believe...
AngelsChild31:
Like a spiritual bound or connection
BeadBaron:
RB
I am a psychic no belles & whistles just quiet knowing
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, right-- that is my main
point tonight, that there is a
RBCF
3000: lot of power in defining reality
differently, and fluidly.
Sunglo001:
because we can only accept so much at
different times in our lives
RBCF
3000: Tipherath, I'd rather offer the
mule a carrot or a sugar cube
RochelleDo:
and yet I now know I knew it...
Tipherath:
3K...never worked with mules then, have
you?...lol
RBCF
3000: BeadBaron, how did you first know
you were?
Sunglo001:
as we grow... we grow.
Galaxon:
3K...are you gonna give us techniques
to feel oneness?
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, how much, though?
MoMolly2:
I just want LOgic
Sunglo001:
as much as you can for where you are in
your understanding.
Sunglo001:
everyone is different
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, not just "feel",
but *see* it.
BeadBaron:
As a child I knew things would happen
thot everyone did
Gollywow5:
I "feel" things in a quiet but
sure way as i feel the wind or sunshine and know it to be
RochelleDo:
I wish it wasnt so late .... I hate leaving!!!
Gollywow5:
"real"
Galaxon:
3K wow...when i can smell it, i'll have
it made
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, inductive or
deductive? Digital or analog
logic?
MoMolly2:
just plain logic
Sunglo001:
lol ~ get your cell phone
Tipherath:
Gala...nope, when you can eat it, you
have it made
Tipherath:
(no sexual pun intended, but lol that it
was
Tipherath:
there)...
Kirstenese:
Golly, that's a nice way to put it
RBCF
3000: RochelleDo, then why not arrive
instead?
RochelleDo:
omg, 3000...:))))
Gollywow5:
I "feel" things even now
emanting from those in room
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, do you mean
rationality? Normal categories?
RBCF
3000: Because this class is all about
*breaking* all those old
RBCF
3000: patterns so we can witness the
miraculous nature of
RBCF
3000: existence.
RochelleDo:
that is why I love being present,
Golly
Tipherath:
Gala...but when you "eat"
something, it becomes a part of you...was my meaning...
Gollywow5:
Galaxon:
tip if what i eat i become...that
means.....
Tipherath:
Gala, I was merely riding your metaphores
MoMolly2:
RBCF.... i just would like to not be delusional.. have a knowing , and not question
Sunglo001:
but if you didn't question, how could you
grow?
Tipherath:
Gala...you virgin you...
Jewlcraft:
a knowing without explanation
Dolly
Destiny1: like standing on the beach,
the channel changes and now you are standing on the hill side..
Grazhopprr:
i learn so much here
MoMolly2:
yes
jewls thanks
Jewlcraft:
that's what it sometimes feels like
BeadBaron:
I know what I know I just don't know how
it works
Tipherath:
Heart...returning my ears to 3K
Sunglo001:
agreed, Jewl
RBCF
3000: BeadBaron, you may have some ideas
about how it works, if
RBCF
3000: you journey with us for a while.
Grazhopprr:
if we understood how it works, we
would not be here
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BeadBaron:
Thanks Rb i'm listening please go forward
RochelleDo:
or we can build on it, Graz
Sunglo001:
does it matter HOW it works?
RBCF
3000: Grazhopprr, or we would be
teaching, right?
Dolly
Destiny1: no
Grazhopprr:
nope
Galaxon:
3K the galaxonman is ready for some
basic procedures on doing this stuff
RochelleDo:
the "how" is in the
"knowing"
MoMolly2:
im looking for inner truth.. why i
allowed myself to question
Grazhopprr:
brb,,,,,,laundry, heh
RochelleDo:
maybe dont think too much, MoMolly?
JDRED1406:
No, Sun; it really doesn't matter how it
works. Only that we have the ability
and exercise
Sunglo001:
because you would be "dead in the
water" if you didn't question, Mo.
RBCF
3000: All right, friends, let's continue
on with tonight's subject.
RBCF
3000: Please hold comments for a minute
or two while I roll this
RBCF
3000: puppy out .............................................................
RBCF
3000: Now I am going to introduce a
different paradigm for all
RBCF
3000: these psychic and magical events.
First of all, and this idea
RBCF
3000: won't be totally new to a lot of
you, we are NOT separate,
RBCF
3000: no more than the fingers of a hand
or the leaves of a tree.
RBCF
3000: If my fingers each thought that it
was some kind of
RBCF
3000: "individual" with
"free will," my hand would quickly become
RBCF
3000: totally useless to me.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: But fortunately, my fingers have
submitted their "will" to a
RBCF
3000: Higher Authority (me!) and I can
create delicate and
RBCF
3000: sublime intricacies with them,
working in perfect harmony.
RBCF
3000: Do I need to resort to
"psychic powers" or some "aether" to
RBCF
3000: explain how my fingers know what
each other is doing, and
RBCF
3000: what each one is supposed to do?
RBCF
3000: .
RochelleDo:
wonderful analogy, 3000
RBCF
3000: Obviously not. Now all I have to do
is give you a good
RBCF
3000: enough justification for extending
this simplistic metaphor to
RBCF
3000: ourselves and our world.
RBCF
3000: I have to admit that I didn't
really believe this idea either,
RBCF
3000: for the longest time, until finally
I could no longer escape
RBCF
3000: the synchronicities and gaps that I
kept running into.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: I didn't even believe in myself as
a psychic until there were
RBCF
3000: too many times that I had
"nailed" an image or event with
RBCF
3000: people that I had never known
before, so much that they
RBCF
3000: would start sobbing at a memory
they thought they had
RBCF
3000: buried, or some difficulty they
were trying not to deal with.
RBCF
3000: I still don't like making
predictions for people, I suppose
RBCF
3000: because I feel like I am somehow
*causing* the event to
RBCF
3000: happen that way.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: But instead of having to go around
saying, "Gosh, ain't this
RBCF
3000: weird," or "I don't know
how I could have known that," I get
RBCF
3000: to go around with a model of
reality more like a weaving or
RBCF
3000: a tapestry, wherein all the figures
and designs in the fabric
RBCF
3000: are composed of exactly the same
threads as each other:
RBCF
3000: the same red thread in each of us,
the same white one, etc.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: Another way that I like thinking of
this is a hologram. You're
RBCF
3000: all familiar with the the
2-dimensional holograms on credit
RBCF
3000: cards that hold enough different
variations of an image that
RBCF
3000: it looks animated if you hold and
move the card the right
RBCF
3000: way,
RBCF
3000: and if you go to any science
museum, they'll usually have a
RBCF
3000: 3-dimensional image that changes as
you walk around it.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: One of my favorite properties of a
hologram is that, if you
RBCF
3000: cut it or break it up into many
small pieces, each piece
RBCF
3000: contains the entire image as the
original, just smaller.
RBCF
3000: So I envision some kind of hologram
of many dimensions, each of which is conscious.
RBCF
3000: ****** I'd love to hear what kinds
of synchronicites,
RBCF
3000: paradoxes or unexplainable gaps
have forced you to re-
RBCF
3000: examine your opinion of
"normal reality," or any questions
RBCF
3000: you might have about what I am
describing here. Go right
RBCF
3000: ahead now, please.
..................................
JDRED1406:
The more we question things, the more we
learn and understand.
MoMolly2:
you mean like feeling in sinc with
someone.. like at work.. same wavelength? that means you are
MoMolly2:
one?
Sunglo001:
that would be us humans
RochelleDo:
exactly...it is wondrous...
Jewlcraft:
the only thing that really separates each
of us from the other is our own free will
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, which part would be
"human"?
Galaxon:
3K i apologize for being so
un-metaphysical..but i have had none
Mui
Turtle: could you repeat that request
RBCF
3000: Jewlcraft, that was my question--
can we truly believe in
RBCF
3000: the rightness of our "free
will"?
Jewlcraft:
define "rightness"
Gollywow5:
3k I am reminded much right now of the"Celestine
Phrophecy" book
Jewlcraft:
it wouldnt be there if it wasnt
"right"
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, how about just, "What
do these examples make you think of?"
Mui
Turtle: 3000 are you a holegram ?
RBCF
3000: Gollywow, I think that book has a
lot of examples about this, right.
MoMolly2:
this is a little deep for me
Galaxon:
3k.....welll..like when i looked at my
plate and the steak told me to not eat it?
MoMolly2:
plain english
Wewachanpi:
3K..much is predetermined , how we
work it out is our free will...sound right?
MoMolly2:
no masters here
Sunglo001:
3K ~ the holagram broken into pieces..
all showing the whole
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle,
I/you/we/God-are-the-hologram, is how I'd put it.
JerryAtrix000:
I agree with wewa
Mui
Turtle: how do you know that 3000
MoMolly2:
i understood the annology with the broken pieces..
Writers
Curse: I was comparing your analogy of
the hologram to tangrams, where different shapes are made
Writers
Curse: from the same pieces.
Dolly
Destiny1: all this is, is the hologram,
the universe, became conscious. & look with that conscious.
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, you have to be nice to
your steak before it will let you eat it.
Wewachanpi:
too much thought , heart has to feel
MoMolly2:
and your orka mike.. remember that!
MoMolly2:
i am all emotion
MoMolly2:
thats why i seek logic
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, sounds right-- each human
would then be a "shard" of the hologram, eh?
Dolly
Destiny1: we can look WITH that
conscious of the universe that became conscious
Wewachanpi:
how can spirit create when the
thought processes get in the way of natural events?
RBCF
3000: Writers Curse, where could I see
examples of "tangrams"?
Gollywow5:
I feel more like its a rubic cube and
getting in touch with Pyshic abilitys helps to align
Sunglo001:
3k ~ yup
:) ~ that's why the term
"mirroring" (sp?)
JerryAtrix000:
all these shapes to ponder upon
Gollywow5:
the cube in its proper rows of color
coordinations
Writers
Curse: Tangrams are used in elementary
schools to teach kids different ways of perceiving the same objects, RBCF.
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, my idea is that each
piece is inherently conscious-- just has to wake up.
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, you bet!
MoMolly2:
ok I'm awake... why hasn't it come yet?
Gollywow5:
a combination of what is phyisacl and hat
is determined by free choices of free willed peopl
Wewachanpi:
MO?
Dolly
Destiny1: 3000 i have no idea why some
did not wake up.
Mui
Turtle: since we are allowed freedom
to express what we think about something ask, i would say we
Zamurito:
MoMolly, are you awake, or just having a
realization?
Mui
Turtle: are into speculations here.
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, *Awake* doesn't say,
"Ok, I'm awake, but I don't
RBCF
3000: see." *Awake* says,
"I-am-awake-and-I-see-with-you-
RBCF
3000: God-all-one"
Wewachanpi:
see...MO?
Zamurito:
Yes, 3k, what you said
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, each one awakens
when it has a flux of
RBCF
3000: energy to do it with. Awakeness is ecstatic energy.
Mui
Turtle: "I ,we, god, 3000 all
holograms 2 of which you cannot honestly say for sure are there only 1
Mui
Turtle: yourself
Gollywow5:
awake=aware
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, what?
Sunglo001:
we are all at different levels of
awareness.. and then also perceive that awareness through
Sunglo001:
our own eyes
Gollywow5:
yes
Wewachanpi:
yes.... SUNGLO...thats it!
MoMolly2:
so is it gonna take me a life time to
finally see?
Sunglo001:
Mo ~ you see as you see now. Let it happen.
Gollywow5:
no Momolly each sees according to their
need and gifts
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, my idea is that each of us
is God-at-different-
RBCF
3000: perspectives-in-the-hologram-all-equal.
Wewachanpi:
all levels of understandings , 1 for
each to explore in his way
BeadBaron:
MO many lifetimes
Dolly
Destiny1: 3000 all it takes is being
more Alive....use our emotions
Gollywow5:
and desire to see
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RBCF
3000: MoMolly, we work at it for
lifetimes, but we *see* in a moment, see?
Sunglo001:
3k ~ of course we are equal. I was where you were, he was were I am going
to be, I am where
Sunglo001:
they will be
MoMolly2:
cause life is short..
Sunglo001:
doesn't matter.. it's all the same.
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, but then where does he sit
when the music stops?
Mui
Turtle: and it just does not pay to
think of it much now does it
Sunglo001:
LOL ~
I don't know.. but I'm in the chair!
LOL
Mui
Turtle:
MoMolly2:
getting a head ache
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, absolutely-- we'll
be getting to the kind of
RBCF
3000: emotions that take us to specific
realities.
Galaxon:
Molly why?
Dolly
Destiny1: 3000, ok,
Galaxon:
3000...let me see....emotions are the
attractors of what?
MoMolly2:
this is actually all new to me guys..
only 3 years old new age time
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, that is precisely
why most religions have so
RBCF
3000: much emotional content- they were
engineered to produce
RBCF
3000: states for witnessing Divine
Presence, although most have
RBCF
3000: forgotten how and why.
Gollywow5:
similar emotions
Wewachanpi:
its okay Mo...youll find the way
BeadBaron:
I can only do readings if totally
detached
Trees
my love: Emotions are so much ego
MoMolly2:
thanks
hope so
Gollywow5:
Sunglo001:
that's cuz there are too many rules
attached to it, 3K
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, all emotions are precisely
the attractors of
RBCF
3000: realities. That's why it is so important to project
love,
RBCF
3000: forgiveness, gratitude and
humility-- takes us to the
RBCF
3000: highest we can get to.
Mui
Turtle: Wew think i will find the
way too?
Trees
my love: ego clouds remembering
MoMolly2:
no emotions are love, anger,
frustration etc
RBCF
3000: Trees my love, there are very
different kinds of "emotions"
Wewachanpi:
u will... every one percieives
differently thats what its all about
Dolly
Destiny1: religions remove emotions from
the masses. stops human divine magic.
Mui
Turtle: what is the way first
Galaxon:
3000 that is wha conversations with God
says,too
Wewachanpi:
sure MUI
Wewachanpi:
i will to one dday.. every day is
growth
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, in my paradigm, most of
those are not emotions at
RBCF
3000: all, but stories that we keep
telling ourselves to justify a
RBCF
3000: point of view.
Galaxon:
3K are those macros or are you a fast
typing fiend? hehe
Mui
Turtle: Wew just so they do not ask
me to get on a flaming ship flying through skies
Gollywow5:
3k right on!
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, right now I am just typing
fast.
MoMolly2:
ok so my life is a lie RBCF?
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, and mine, and his, and
theirs-- all illusion.
Mui
Turtle: lol that is no way towards
the way
RBCF
3000: ... all dream.
Wewachanpi:
oh come on could be fun!
Trees
my love: so many forms of emotion, how
many forms of ego?
MoMolly2:
if you pinch me do i not ouch?
Sunglo001:
no, Mo... your life is NOT a lie... it is
YOUR perception... and everyone is at different
Sunglo001:
aspects of persception
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, why not? That is exactly what I intend to do!
Galaxon:
if i pinch her i go ouch when she slaps
me
Gollywow5:
as the aborgines of Au say this is the
dream the real world is to come
Damp
Bunny: heheh gala
MoMolly2:
wacks
MIke
Mui
Turtle: 3000 why do i not doubt that
from you
Wewachanpi:
galax...good one!
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, I've had dreams where I
proved in many ways that I was *awake* in them.
Wewachanpi:
thats about levels of consiousness
3K
Sunglo001:
i bet
Trees
my love: oh dear, have to go
MoMolly2:
RBCF.. i am genuinely courious.. not
tryiong to make a mockery
RBCF
3000: Gollywow, not exactly "yet to
come", but parallel, or enfolding, like an onion.
MoMolly2:
i seek understanding
Mui
Turtle: 3000 do you think we
actually ever went and walked on the moon?
Mui Turtle:
or was that a trickery holographic
image
RBCF
3000: MoMolly, I appreciate your comments
and questions.
Gollywow5:
layered
Sunglo001:
onion ~ a peeling away
Damp
Bunny: it was a studio
Damp
Bunny: moon studio
Galaxon:
3000 to whom did you prove this?
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, not to my own personal
witnessing, so I hold that open.
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, to everyone in the
"room" with me, in the dream.
Gollywow5:
MoMolly2:
well we had all better wake up
Galaxon:
3000 oh...they were all dream figures.
jehova's witnesses>?)
Wewachanpi:
hahahah heheh...galx
MoMolly2:
how about new beginnings?
Dolly
Destiny1: 3000, i go with you sharing of
the dream, i too experince those dreams.
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, they were all adepts.
MoMolly2:
thanks everyone
Mui
Turtle: some hologram
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, I thought you did.
Galaxon:
3000 you mean you had dream links?
MoMolly2:
its been interesting
Gollywow5:
144,000 choir then gala
Grazhopprr:
adept at what
Sunglo001:
thank you, Molly
Wewachanpi:
going MO?
MoMolly2:
yes
wew
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, more than links-- we went
into telepathic rapport,
RBCF
3000: and performed things like
telekinesis and levitation.
Sunglo001:
See ~ not everyone is at the same level..
we have to be able to communicate
Sunglo001:
at the level to which the person is that
we speak to... if
we can
Galaxon:
3K i thought you told me you never felt
oneness
Mui
Turtle: Sunglo you go girl
Writers
Curse: Sun, the common denominator?
Sunglo001:
No... just that you have to remember from
which you came, and be able to speak at the
Sunglo001:
level to communicate to someone who is
trying to grow
Mui
Turtle: horizontal or vertical
growth Sun?
Sunglo001:
If you speak way beyond their messure,
they get frustrated.
Wewachanpi:
Sun <you are so right-on!!
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, for when I said I didn't
feel oneness-- do you
RBCF
3000: mean when I said we'll also *see*
it?
Writers
Curse: Sun, so it's like nuturing them,
so they can in turn nurture someone else.
Grazhopprr:
theories are nice, aren't they
Sunglo001:
yes, Writers
Sunglo001:
Graz
~ it ain't a theory.. if that was directed to what I said.
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, usually they just ignore
it, or they may present irrelevant arguments.
Gollywow5:
the desriptions of thier reality is what
bars most from "understanding"
Sunglo001:
3k ~ ya don't know if ya don't work with
em
Mui
Turtle: 3000 there you messed up ,
everything is relevant
Gollywow5:
thier egos can't take the awakening and
don't want to accept another truth other then what
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, where?
Gollywow5:
they ahve built it to be
Mui
Turtle: there
Mui
Turtle: where else
Sunglo001:
Golly ~ very untrue.. or they wouldn't be
seeking
Sunglo001:
something within tells them to ask, to
question.. even if they don't understand
BeadBaron:
I was hoping for an intelligent
conversation!!!!!
Gollywow5:
they r genrally seeking first from
"need"
Grazhopprr:
< was a seeker, grew out of it
Mui
Turtle: tickles the brain
Sunglo001:
at this point and time.. you may be
planting a seed.. make sure it is a good one.
Sunglo001:
Graz ~ you have learned to filter..
that's the differnce
Writers
Curse: So a sense of imbalance causes
them to seek out whatever is missing.
Wewachanpi:
egos Bead
Grazhopprr:
sunny, nah, just gave up hearing
nice theories, heh,,,,,,just a watcher now
RBCF
3000: And now, friends, for the exciting
conclusion of tonight's
RBCF
3000: lesson -- "How to gain control
over our psychic abilities and
RBCF
3000: connections" although, if we
operate from this last
RBCF
3000: perspective I've offered here, we
might have to ask, "How
RBCF
3000: can we integrate with the
consciousnesses of an n-th
RBCF
3000: dimensional self-reflexive
hologram?"
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: I've made "consciousness"
plural here because I see each
RBCF
3000: "weaving" of it as an
archetypal consciousness; that is,
RBCF
3000: each point of view of it, of our
life experience, can properly
RBCF
3000: be regarded as a specific
consciousness--
RBCF
3000: an archetype, in a sense. Most of the pagan, Hindu, Greek,
RBCF
3000: Egyptian, Roman, Norse and tribal
pantheons of deities
RBCF
3000: have been such archetypes: the god
of War, the goddess
RBCF
3000: of hunting, the god of good
penmanship, I suppose.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: Now in this new model, each of
these "gods" is now a
RBCF
3000: thread of our tapestry, the one in
which each and all of our
RBCF
3000: life experiences is woven.
Log
Count: There were 16 member(s) in The New
Age at 08:15 PM
RBCF
3000: To each of these gods is ascribed
immortal powers and
RBCF
3000: knowledge of various kinds, so each
of those now becomes
RBCF
3000: available to us, if we know how to
invoke them and then
RBCF
3000: wield them.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: I notice that we have a huge body
of literature and film
RBCF
3000: about what happens from dark or
ignorant misuse of
RBCF
3000: supernatural power, and these tales
have always intrigued
RBCF
3000: us.
RBCF
3000: Almost always, the solution offered
is to "make it go away"
RBCF
3000: either by killing off the sorcerers
or the observers, or by
RBCF
3000: having the witnesses forget or
wander off into seclusion.
RBCF
3000: .
RBCF
3000: It is very rare that we are told or
shown examples of the
RBCF
3000: integrity, humility and discipline
that it takes to adopt our
RBCF
3000: powers in an integrated way, as
part of who and what we
RBCF
3000: are.
RBCF
3000: We normally attribute that to
saints and martyrs, very far
RBCF
3000: from what any of us would consider
doing ourselves, at
RBCF
3000: least until we take too much Prozac
and go berserk.
RBCF
3000: ****** Well, friends, those are the
ideas that I'd like you
RBCF
3000: to think about for yourselves. Now
let's hear your questions
RBCF
3000: and comments. Go right ahead now,
please.
RBCF
3000: ....................................
Mui
Turtle: 3000 dark and ignorant are
judgements , a hologram doesn't know how unless guided by mind
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, exactly true.
Wewachanpi:
this is way too much
Wewachanpi:
Agree with u MUI
RBCF
3000: <-- also agrees with MUI
Dolly
Destiny1: <---agree
Wewachanpi:
progress....
Writers
Curse: If we are part of a single gem,
the reflection off each facet may be different, but it is
Sunglo001:
I wonder how anyone can think that it
takes a Saint.. etc...to show us a way w/integrity..
Galaxon:
3K we are all just mirrors of ourselves
Temshaa:
Thats right Galaxon Man!!!
Writers
Curse: still a part of the whole.
Therefore, if we understand our "oneness" we can see the other
Writers
Curse: facets.
Mui
Turtle: puts back on rose colored
glasses continues search for holographic wild cherries
Galaxon:
cherries? nah
Sunglo001:
take them off, Turtle.. you're doing good
w/o them
Wewachanpi:
coughing...holograms
Wewachanpi:
Hi Spirit
Wewachanpi:
by
Gollywow5:
I have learned more tonite and thank all
of you for the sharing of knowledge
RBCF
3000: As speculative as tonight's lesson
may seem, we will find it
Gollywow5:
Peace
RBCF
3000: extremely useful conceptually as we
go along in the next
RBCF
3000: few months.
BeadBaron:
.What have yoy learned?
RBCF
3000: Gollywow, thanks for coming-- would
you like updates?
Gollywow5:
:) 3k thank u for ur efforts:) yes please
Sunglo001:
I've learned that even if we HAVE grown
beyond the understanding (in our own minds) of other
Sunglo001:
others.. given that, we are here, then to
guide others ~ should they be so inclined
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, how can we *Know* that we
know enough to teach others?
Sunglo001:
3K ~ we teach and we learn.. it's all the
same
Sunglo001:
but we can't think we have learned so
much that we are beyond teaching
Sunglo001:
to those who are just beginning
Wewachanpi:
we teach by our eaxample 3K... good
and the bad
Sunglo001:
true ~ Wewa
Mui
Turtle: we know we know by not
knowing what to expect from a willing participant's knowing no?
Dolly
Destiny1: that would slow a person
down,,,stoping to explan to others...better to continue forward
Writers
Curse: 3000, I think we recognize it
when others come to us seeking answers.
RBCF
3000: Sunglo, actually, I teach classes
like this in order to find
RBCF
3000: out what I know, or to invoke some
knowledge that I want.
RBCF
3000: Wewachanpi, I agree. Example is the sure test.
Sunglo001:
3K ~ ok
Galaxon:
3k do you talk as fast as you type in
the class?
Wewachanpi:
i stopped teachin a year ago.. but
people keep coming
Starlight044:
i do not know turtle..lol
RBCF
3000: Writers Curse, I always ask them
for bigger and better *questions*!
Starlight044:
<<<has embraced her dark
side..
Writers
Curse: Me too, 3000, and I don't
consider myself a teacher, merely another traveler.
Mui
Turtle: Wew want to teach me on the
side what it is you stopped ?
Treeswayen:
<~~~~~~embraces anyone who will
embrace back
RBCF
3000: I'd like to hear from any psychics
or adepts in here, if the
RBCF
3000: ideas we looked at tonight help you
in some way.
Treeswayen:
I had a thought.... would like to
know how my "natural" healing is different from "trained"
Treeswayen:
healing like Reiki people do
RBCF
3000: Treeswayen, maybe because you don't
yet understand how
RBCF
3000: you do it, so you can't do some
things as if you did know
RBCF
3000: how you do it...?
Starlight044:
do you have to understand the how ?
Sunglo001:
trained is more organized.
RBCF
3000: Starlight, only if we wish to go
beyond our current limits, right?
Sunglo001:
in healing that is.
Treeswayen:
how come I can find meridians almost
at will
Starlight044:
i guess I am different
Sunglo001:
but you always have your right to expand
on what you are taught.
Sunglo001:
RBCF
3000: For example, Luciano Pavaratti
never learned to read music.
RBCF
3000: Just imagine what he could do, if he knew how.
Treeswayen:
I remember a high jumper who went
over the bar straddling it
Treeswayen:
the coach wouldn't teach him proper
technique because he was afraid it would destroy his
Treeswayen:
natural ability
Log
Count: There were 20 member(s) in The New
Age at 08:30 PM
RBCF
3000: Treeswayen, because your hands know
how to feel
RBCF
3000: meridians-- that's not too
difficult. But what if you wanted
RBCF
3000: to cure some entrenched brain
tumor, or AIDS or something
RBCF
3000: like that?
Mui
Turtle: 3000 that's what i meant by
sometimes it pays not to pay attention
Writers
Curse: 3000 would you please define for
me what an "adept" is?
Treeswayen:
I"d triple my fees, that's
what!!
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, right-- the difference
is to keep *intellect* out
RBCF
3000: of the way, and let the *proper*
mind KNow, see?
Starlight044:
i suppose i was speaking of the arcane
Treeswayen:
and if I"m powerful enough to
find a meridian, and anyone can "cure" a brain tumor
Galaxon:
an adept is a person who finds the
depth of lakes by tiptoeing thru them
Treeswayen:
I can too
Treeswayen:
good one Galaxon
Wewachanpi:
excuse me 3K..u cannot heal any
1...only the creator can..we can only be instruments
RBCF
3000: Writers Curse, someone with gifts,
powers or special
RBCF
3000: abilities; someone who has been
trained in esoteric
RBCF
3000: disciplines.
Writers
Curse: Thanks, 3000, guess that lets me
out then <g>
Mui
Turtle: 3000 can you read dimples in
peoples head?
Treeswayen:
agreed wewa
Sunglo001:
agreed, Wewa.. we are channels or vessels
through which the divine works
UNANA: phrenology
RBCF
3000: Wewachanpi, and how are we
*separate* from the Creator??? That's
my point here tonight.
JeannieJ1:
are we separate???
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, enough to tell if they
have zits.
Writers
Curse: I don't think we are separate
Mui Turtle:
lol
Saber
of Gold: We are all pieces of the Whole
Wewachanpi:
if your god in the fleh , you
wouldn't be preaching youd be doing
JeannieJ1:
we are all part of ONE
Treeswayen:
In traditional Judaism, that is a
definition of hell
Mui
Turtle: one what though jeannie
Wewachanpi:
flesh...sorry
Treeswayen:
to be separate from the creator
RBCF
3000: Wewachanpi, right now I am sharing,
earlier I was doing.
JeannieJ1:
ONE energy
DDreamtime:
Jesus "quote"anything i
can do the least of you can do
JeannieJ1:
ONEness
Saber
of Gold:
Mui
Turtle: one energy, do we know the
name of that energy we are one of?
Wewachanpi:
seperation...not gods way
UNANA: Saber
Imp?Sage?
RBCF
3000: DDreamtime, I am sure that is what
he wanted for us, for us to follow in his steps, right?
JeannieJ1:
it is up to our own reality as to what we
call that ONEness....to me it's God
Writers
Curse: Mui, the name may be different
for different people, but ... still comes back to the same.
RBCF
3000: Mui Turtle, the One is not one
anymore, the second that we think we know its "name"
Treeswayen:
in the end... I'm the person who
"feels" the pain of others
Mui
Turtle: same , and one hmmm , so we
really did not need to be here to know all this then as we
Saber
of Gold:
Mui
Turtle: already contained it
Treeswayen:
and if I heal it.. I"m feeling
it happen.. not a deity
RBCF
3000: Treeswayen, can you bear your own
pain? That's been a buggaboo for me.
DDreamtime:
3000 empowered
JeannieJ1:
we have "all" within us
Treeswayen:
bear my own pain?
RBCF
3000: Treeswayen, how do you *know* it's
not divine?
Treeswayen:
I don't know what that means?
Treeswayen:
I don't concern myself with whether
it is or not.. I do or do not.
Treeswayen:
I choose whether to give of myself..
to block the pain or accept it and relieve it
RBCF
3000: Treeswayen, it's not me, and it's
not you, but it's not
RBCF
3000: "someone else"
either. That's where the Divine comes
in--
RBCF
3000: it makes us one together. That's
what I've been proposing
RBCF
3000: tonight.
Mui
Turtle: Trees i take it by you
talking tonight that you do hands on therapy, filtering that of
Treeswayen:
ok.. won't argue..
Mui
Turtle: other's along with your own
gets heavey doesn't it?
Treeswayen:
I do hands on and talk therapy
RBCF
3000: (Before we go, here are the
announcements:
RBCF
3000: Next week: "The discernment
and application of love and
RBCF
3000: forgiveness as the alchemic
base." Please continue
RBCF
3000: whatever daily practices you are
doing -- we'll be using
RBCF
3000: everything that results from
them.
RBCF
3000: These include stopping the internal
dialogue; listening,
RBCF
3000: tasting and feeling on deep,
synaesthesic levels; dream and
RBCF 3000:
trance work; and consistent meditations
of different kinds.
RBCF
3000: .
Galaxon:
3K are room chat logs available w/o the
editing?
Sunglo001:
never use your own...that's the key.. In
fact, it isn't necessary
Mui
Turtle: have you noted peaks or
valleys right after on fluctuations of glucose meterings?
RBCF
3000: All the previous ten logues are
downloadable from keyword
RBCF
3000: "New Age" Library II, if
you missed any of the previous
RBCF
3000: classes, and tonight's logue (#11)
will be available within the
RBCF
3000: next week.
Treeswayen:
Mui... I'm not sure what you meant
by filtering pain of others
Treeswayen:
actually no
Mui
Turtle: When you do hands on you
take that through your own body
Treeswayen:
unless my blood glucose is VERY high
Mui
Turtle: filtering it out allowing
its flow to run through is needed
RBCF
3000: Galaxon, they exist, but they are
too cumbersome to
RBCF
3000: transmit in original form. I boil them down to text format.
Treeswayen:
if it is low I can't think anyway
Mui
Turtle: asked if you had troubles
that way
Dolly
Destiny1: 3000, you were great, great,
great.
RBCF
3000: Dolly Destiny, shucks, thanks. :)))
Dolly
Destiny1: KISSES FOR 3000
DDreamtime:
thanks Barry :)
Treeswayen:
oh, I see.. no.. I use the energy
from outside.. not my own
RBCF
3000: <-- blushes pink
Dolly
Destiny1: lol
Mui
Turtle:
Dolly
Destiny1: <---blushes
Treeswayen:
superb 3000.. <applause
applause>
RBCF
3000: Well then, come on back-- there are
at least 14 more
RBCF
3000: sessions to go in this series,
y'hear?
BeadBaron:
Thank you for your time 3000 love&light
Writers
Curse: Thanks 3000, you set my mind in
higher gear
Treeswayen:
BB 3000
Dolly
Destiny1: i hear
Sunglo001:
L*L to you 3K
RBCF
3000: Everyone, I run four chats a week,
and there are lots of
RBCF
3000: others, so please send in all your
own ideas for chats and
RBCF
3000: classes.
RBCF
3000: Writers Curse, maybe you'll turn
out to be an adept after all, eh?
Saber
of Gold: Yep, this class was a good one
Treeswayen:
ahh.. by the way.. when I use formal
technique, the skill abandons me
Writers
Curse: 3000, anything is possible
Mui
Turtle: photon belt and exchanges in
earthly matters 3000 would be good one
Treeswayen:
interesting topic
Sunglo001:
I think I had a pretty good one going
there for a night of conversation... about being able
Saber of Gold: