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Troimille
"The Current of
Love" #7 of 10
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Troimille: Terry, do you have the homework
assignments I've given?
TantraFun: oh yeah, they've been great fun
Troimille: What have you noticed different after
doing them?
TantraFun: well, I've been practicing Tantra for ,mmm,
4-5 years
TantraFun: generally I find some increases of
awareness at any exercise done
slowly
TantraFun: increased awareness is my answer
Troimille: In general? What about for this last
homework?
Alisnntrnt: Make room in your Mind and in your Heart
for the Presence of
Grace; invite
TantraFun: I didn't read nor do the last homework
Alisnntrnt: nurture and cherish
each encounter being
Alisnntrnt: totally new and thrilling; let your mouth
speak only truth and
beauty
Alisnntrnt: let your hands touch only with caring and
love, let every act be
one of
Alisnntrnt: K置ng fu and
Mitzvah.
Alisnntrnt: that's the assignment Terry
Troimille: Anybody need to know what K置ng fu and Mitzvah mean in this
context?
Alisnntrnt: no Barry, please explain
Troimille: K'ung fu
actually means "hard work" or "work done for a long time
by a man"
Alisnntrnt: ohhhhhhh
Troimille: It represents anything that we do wholeheartedly,
with
mindfulness.
.. and with all the skill
that we have.
Troimille: But it's not about achieving some outcome;
it's more focused on
how we work, and what
Troimille: we bring to it of our self.
Troimille: Has anyone noticed that our love lives can
be activated with
"K置ng fu"?
Troimille: Now for "Mitzvah"-- it means to
fulfill one's obligations, to act
with respect and blessing.
Alisnntrnt: not sure I follow Barry
Troimille: What, Mary?
Alisnntrnt: love lives activated with K置ng fu
Troimille: To bring our finest attention,
intentionality and willingness to
our relationships, right?
Alisnntrnt: yes
Troimille: When I make love to you, I have no other
thoughts on my mind, I
am totally with you here.
Alisnntrnt: understood
Troimille: I am inside of you emotionally, mentally,
perceptually-- our
essences intermerge.
Troimille: I make love to myself through you,
empathically.
Troimille: And you, in turn,
make love to yourself through me, inside of me.
Alisnntrnt: understood
Troimille: That's the essence of K置ng
fu of lovemaking, IMHO.
Alisnntrnt: ok :)
Troimille: Welcome once again, dear friends.
Tonight's basic theme is about
the Power that ensues
Troimille: from collecting all our feelings into
Conscience, collecting all
our thoughts into
Troimille: Mindfulness, collecting all our intents
into Beingness,
collecting all our words into the
Troimille: Logos of Creation, collecting all of our
acts into Holiness -
"whole-I-ness," if you will.
Troimille: How is this possible, and what in the
world could it ever have to
do with love? After all,
Troimille: love is just sharing, and needing, and
feeling good, at least
some of the time, right? And
Troimille: owning each other, having someone to lie
to and cheat on, and to
take our moods out on,
Troimille: right? Or is Love just exactly what we are
made of, what our
Life-Force is?
Troimille: *What do you say, Mary? What is
"love" for you?
Alisnntrnt: acceptance, I think
Alisnntrnt: not being accepted but accepting that
love can happen
Alisnntrnt: surrendering to love
Troimille: That's nice and noncommittal and
impersonal, Mary dear. "It
happens".
Troimille: Let's put it this way, then: How do you
give love?
Alisnntrnt: my practice is teaching me how to create
love
Troimille: I still don't hear what Mary is bringing
to me here. How are you
loving me right now?
Alisnntrnt: by listening....
Troimille: With what attention are you listening? How
many chakras do you
have spun up for this
Troimille: encounter.
Alisnntrnt: I haven't learned that yet...lol...but I am open to what you're
saying
Troimille: Ok, I'll continue...
Troimille: It is said that, in our ordinary lives, we
are food for the Moon.
Operating under the Law of
Troimille: Accident, we react mechanically, we think
in limited categories,
we see ugliness,
Troimille: injustice and separation in everything--
we are automatons that
way, effectively dead, even
Troimille: if "geniuses",
"artists", "celebrities", "leaders", or
passionate
performers. Why? Because
Troimille: everything here comes from our programming,
our indoctrination
and our habits.
Troimille: Someone who can be quiet inside can stop
believing in words,
categories, labels and
Troimille: "issues"; if they devote
themselves to selfless service-- truly
anonymous and free of
Troimille: attachment to outcome-- they can develop
the new habit of
"external considering", which
Troimille: means dropping self-importance.
Troimille: This is what runs the most pathetic, suicidally self-pitying
"victim" into agony,
Troimille: disease and dissolution, and which puts a
mask on the rest of us,
a mask with
Troimille: which we justify everything we do, to our
own satisfaction,
through which we are
Troimille: always "right" at the other's
expense, and which prevents us from
seeing or
Troimille: knowing anything for what it really is.
Troimille: Does this make any sense to you, Mary?
Alisnntrnt: yes and I have a Q
Troimille: Touches turban for answer...
Alisnntrnt: I am still practicing lesson one
Troimille: Indeed.
Alisnntrnt: lol, you are
aging yourself
Alisnntrnt: it occurred to me that 'seeing everything
as if for the very
first time' is different than I
Troimille: What is your question, darlin'?
Alisnntrnt: thought it was
Troimille: How so?
Alisnntrnt: like today...the sunset was
incredible....I tried looking at it
as you outlined
Alisnntrnt: but I kept thinking...how beautiful
Alisnntrnt: and that's a judgment, no?
Troimille: Let all the "how beautiful"s
come from within your Heart, Mary,
and let your mind be still
Troimille: and silent in wonderment.
Troimille: No, it's not a judgment, it's a response
that became habitually
verbal, is all.
Alisnntrnt: ok
Troimille: Now, Mary-- what about the current
material?
Alisnntrnt: I知 working on it
Alisnntrnt: as with the others, practice makes
perfect
Alisnntrnt: and I love practicing
Troimille: What about the ideas I've just rolled out?
Alisnntrnt: I think I have an understanding of them
Troimille: Ok, then I'll continue.
Troimille: Such a person can, through a lifetime of
discipline, become free
of the influence of the
Troimille: Moon, the Law of Accident, and become a
"man without quotation
marks", a warrior, who
Troimille: is now under the rule of the Planets,
which is destiny. This
human being is balanced and
Troimille: capable of making a degree of choice,
because s/he knows themselves
to some extent.
Troimille: If this human being continues to seek
Understanding and holds all
in reverence and
Troimille: humility, they may in time collect
together enough of their
consciousness, intent and
Troimille: positive emotional force to crystallize
into one single Being.
This is a Master, and is his or
Troimille: her own Law, ruled by the Sun (some
misspell this as "the Son",
which is the Christ in
Troimille: manifestation).
Troimille: The master's materiality is now astral, or
dream-body, which is
immortal relative to life on
Troimille: Earth. (There are also higher bodies, with
finer materialities
and senses, but that is for
Troimille: some other class.)
Troimille: *Mary, there are a lot of terms in this
material that may not be
familiar-- how much do you
Troimille: understand?
Alisnntrnt: it's 'grace' that throws me...because I
don't understand what it
is
Alisnntrnt: a friend told me it was knowing you're
blessed whether in pain
or bliss
Troimille: But it's not a "head-knowing",
Mary-- it's actually experiencing
the ecstasy of Divine
Troimille: communion such that noting else can impact
you-- you are filled
with grace, with Divine
Troimille: Essence.
Alisnntrnt: ok, I think I am understanding
more now
Troimille: The Miraculous surrounds you and permeates
you completely, and
every word, every
Troimille: breath, every nuance is a miracle.
Troimille: It's not some idea, no matter how grand
the idea may be.
Alisnntrnt: it's a state of being?
Troimille: You could say that. What about how to
achieve or deserve grace?
Alisnntrnt: wouldn't deserving it be a given?
Troimille: Why so, Mary?
Alisnntrnt: from what I致e been reading...all deserve
this....
Alisnntrnt: all are capable of it
Alisnntrnt: it's not so much about achieving
whatever, but more about
remembering it
Troimille: Mary, the hypocrites and the faithless are
working a different
alchemy than the faithful and
Troimille: the holy. Anyone *can* deserve, and many
receive gifts that they
could not possibly
Troimille: deserve (I sure do!)
Troimille: I'd say that "all deserving" is
a sentimental idea, for the most
part, like "free will".
Troimille: Mary, the point is that, if someone
congratulates themselves on
deserving, they probably
Troimille: do not deserve.
Alisnntrnt: I understand that
Troimille: Deserving is state of grace, actually.
Troimille: Mary, I'll roll out the rest of what I'd
prepared, and then we
can discuss freely, ok?
Alisnntrnt: sure
Troimille: The dream-master *is* the Self, Knows
themselves, and can choose
for the Whole of Self.
Troimille: When such a one expresses Love, it is
Power, an unyielding,
undeniable Force. The
Troimille: intentionality of the Master *is* the law
of the universe, and
the Word of the Master
Troimille: creates manifestation right now!
Troimille: The Thought of the Master is single and
whole, no wool-gathering,
no seductivity, no
Troimille: unsureness, and
it is totally passionate with fully directed
Emotion of Higher Self, which is
Troimille: a range of feelings and sensibilities far
beyond what we can know
in the dense material
Troimille: plane.
Troimille: Why does Sleep have such an intense pull
on us only when we try
to awaken?
Troimille: (listens for responses from the class)
Alisnntrnt: it's easier to stay in one place that to
change...switching
realities
Alisnntrnt: maybe not easier
Alisnntrnt: maybe just more comfortable
Troimille: As in physics, we tend to stay at the
level of lowest energy,
unless we can pick up some
Troimille: extra energy from somewhere else..
Troimille: Extra energy can be great discomfort, and
works fine.
Troimille: But we usually blow off all extra energy
gifts in the form of
anger and chatter and blaming.
Troimille: Even our lovemaking is done with very
poor, low-level energies.
Alisnntrnt: interesting...never thought of it quite
that way
Troimille: That's why a sorcerer or a saint values
all the energies they
get, "good" or "bad".
Alisnntrnt: the energy is the same?
Troimille: Ordinary fool "eats food, gives turds"; master "eats crap, gives
back food".
Troimille: Not the same-- different flavors.
Actually, challenging energies
make the best "food for
Troimille: transmutation", alchemy.
Alisnntrnt: explain more please
Troimille: That's why a master no longer experiences
energies as "pain",
because s/he uses it all,
Troimille: transmutes it into energy of
consciousness, immediate and
passionate.
Troimille: There is no "it happens", but *I
love*, *I act*, *I receive*.
Alisnntrnt: ok, I understand
Alisnntrnt: intent
Troimille: INTENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alisnntrnt: lol
Troimille: Mary, do you see the difference. How
different the quality of
life-force when we bring the
Troimille: whole of our self to this moment, this
encounter with Power.
Alisnntrnt: I am beginning to see
Troimille: Now, back to my first question: How could
preparing for the
onslaught of Love be an
Troimille: ordeal?
Troimille: I use ordeal in the sense of a trial of
faith.
Troimille: Are we prepared to surrender to the Power
of Love? Are we open
enough, free of
Troimille: requirements, defenses, shame and pain?
Troimille: Are we silent Witnesses to the Mystery of
Existence?
Troimille: Are we transparent and light enough to
channel this Magic with a
partner or a fellow?
Troimille: Are we tiny and humble enough to slide
through the cracks in the
fabric of reality?
Troimille: Do we shine with the brilliance of totally
devoted Faith, an
overflowing vessel of
Troimille: creativity and joy?
Troimille: Or can we at all? Is all this just for
somebody else? I thought
you said that "everybody
Troimille: deserves"?
Troimille: Well, Mary? Well, friends?
Alisnntrnt: isn't that what a practice does, brings
us to the point where we
are able to do that?
Alisnntrnt: opens awareness
Troimille: Only if we've got the moxie for it,
otherwise we just go thru the
motions, and still die in
Troimille: abject ignorance.
Alisnntrnt: understood
Troimille: Ask yourself the question, "Am I the
ecstatic Being? Do I demand
this magical existence
Troimille: above
Troimille: "Am I *mad* with desire for Divine
Troimille: Well, friends? What does your Heart cry
out in answer?
Alisnntrnt: yes!!!
Troimille: Sorry, I couldn稚
Alisnntrnt: YES!!!!!!!!!!!!
Troimille: That's better. :)
Alisnntrnt: lolol
Troimille: Mary, do you notice what comes into you
when you AFFIRM like
that?
Alisnntrnt: yes...energy, happiness
Troimille: That's how we demand, insist on and beg
for grace, and we get it,
because we have
Troimille: invoked the holy Law.
Troimille: Ok, any more questions for now?
Alisnntrnt: now I understand what you mean when you
say you are desperate for
this
Troimille: Right-- nothing in my life, NOTHING-- can
approach this meeting
with Destiny, Power and
Troimille: Love.
Troimille: Everything gets out of the way for this, the whole world holds
its breath...
Troimille: the birds stop singing, the sun & moon
change places...
Troimille: (and it is nothing but I-am-Self,
all-that-is, nobody-but-me,
infinitely responsible).
Alisnntrnt: understood
Troimille: You wish, Mary dear. :)
Alisnntrnt: lol, I might
have known
Alisnntrnt: well then, I will continue working in
that direction
Troimille: Ok, anything else for now? Everybody, do
the homework-- you'll
be tested on it. :)
Alisnntrnt: thanks again Barry
Alisnntrnt: I enjoyed this
Troimille: ::::::::: bows
humbly :::::::::::
Troimille: Sweet dreams, and do pay attention to
them, dear friends.
Alisnntrnt: Namaste' :)
Troimille: From my Heart to Yours. :D
Alisnntrnt: pay attention is a good motto
Troimille: lol... Ok, I'll
see you all
in two weeks, right?
Troimille: Good night, dear-- thanks for having me.
Alisnntrnt: night Barry...sweet dreams to you too